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Parliamentary Questions


Question Without Notice No. 411 asked in the Legislative Assembly on 22 June 2022 by Dr D.J. Honey

Parliament: 41 Session: 1

LANDGATE OFFICES — SALE

411. Dr D.J. HONEY to the Minister for Planning:

I refer to an article by Hamish Hastie in The Sydney Morning Herald analysing the sale of the Landgate offices in the Midland town centre that reported the property sold for $17.3 million. Industry sources have indicated that the rentable area of 13 700 square metres of office space would normally be valued at around $68 million. Even if we discount an estimated $10.5 million in forecast building upgrades, the available information would indicate that the government has sold this office space at a discount of over $40 million.

(1) Will the minister table the financial analysis that supports the sale of this asset, including justification for the claim of a $12 million saving over the course of the lease?

(2) How does the minister justify the estimated annual rental cost of around $5.7 million, given that normal rental yield of around five per cent for buildings of this value with a long-term government tenant, which includes a $10.5 million upgrade, would normally be around $1.4 million a year?

The SPEAKER: Minister, before you answer, I would like to give the Leader of the Liberal Party some guidance. That was a very long preamble that contained a lot of argument. Some of that argument could have been framed into questions. Of course, had you framed it into questions, you would have had way too many questions to make it a suitable question for question time. I ask you and those who assist you to consider that. That preamble was way too long; it contained considerable argument; and had you wanted to challenge some of that or ascertain or make a point, you could have asked those questions. You have now asked a long series of questions, but I think the issue you are raising is clear, and on that basis I will ask the minister to respond.

Ms R. SAFFIOTI replied:

(1)–(2) This was a proposal that was put through the problem and opportunity statement process and assessed primarily by the Department of Finance. In the assessment, it looked at a number of different factors. It looked at the cost of refurbishing the Landgate building in the future, the cost of current accommodation for the public servants and the fact that the building was significantly underutilised. Through all that, it came up with an analysis.

Members on the other side of the chamber should not be shocked by these types of arrangements. In fact, the previous Liberal–National government entered into similar arrangements for the refurbishment of the Treasury building in the CBD. I am advised that the most costly accommodation across the entire public sector is some leases for the old Treasury building in the CBD. People could argue whether that was value for money. But if people look at the whole precinct, they will see the redevelopment that has occurred and the reactivation of that place. The old Treasury building—I think it had Lands as well—was left dormant for many, many years. As I understand, a premium price was applied to the accommodation and taxpayers are paying a premium on accommodation in that building as part of the total redevelopment. Is the member arguing that should not have happened?

Dr D.J. Honey: No. I am arguing this is not a total redevelopment.

Ms R. SAFFIOTI: Is the member arguing that should not have happened, because I think he is.

In relation to all these types of projects, the most costly accommodation with one of the longest terms for lease costs is that building that the previous government entered into. Does anyone argue when looking at that building and say it should not have done that reactivation? Of course not, because the entire product is of benefit to the entire community.

A cost–benefit analysis was done. It was undertaken through the market-led proposal process, led at the time by the Department of Finance through a steering committee independent of ministers, and a recommendation was made. Where was the former government's analysis for the Treasury building? Where was its analysis?

Dr D.J. Honey: I wasn't here at the time.

Ms R. SAFFIOTI: The member was not here. As I said, the member makes a lot of comments about these types of projects, but the reality is, just as we saw with the Treasury building, which was empty, dormant and subject to graffiti and other impacts for many, many years—this is something we never did under our government—the former Liberal–National government entered into a relationship with a developer to pay a premium price for accommodation for a product that benefits the entire city and the entire community. That is what the former government did. The member needs to read the media statement on the Treasury building—I did that recently—because it states a premium price per square metre was being paid for that accommodation. The member is saying that Midland does not deserve any redevelopment. That is what he is saying: it does not deserve any redevelopment. I am saying what the former Liberal–National government put in its media statement was that a premium price was paid on that accommodation.

In relation to this property, it was done independently. The steering committee recommended it and then it was adopted. As I said, we looked at these factors: the age of the existing building; the fact that it was underutilised because of changes that have happened at Landgate; the price of accommodation in other areas for new agencies moving in; and the cost of redeveloping the building alone if it were undertaken by taxpayers. A number of different factors were put into play, and the recommendation and decision made at the time was that this project should be supported. It means that public servants will return to Midland. It means there will be greater activation of the Midland area. It means there will be accommodation for public servants in that area. It will support the whole Metronet precinct and the building of a brand new station. I think the idea of, again, revitalising a suburban asset for public servants and efficiently using space is actually a good outcome.

As I said, the member can explain the premium price that taxpayers are paying because of the deal done by the former Liberal–National government and then come back into this place.