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Parliamentary Questions


Question Without Notice No. 822 asked in the Legislative Assembly on 1 December 2022 by Ms L.L. Baker

Parliament: 41 Session: 1

CONVERSION PRACTICES

822. Ms L.L. BAKER to the Attorney General:

I refer to the evidence presented to the Education and Health Standing Committee's inquiry into the Esther Foundation about people being subjected to harmful and dangerous LGBTQIA+ suppression and conversion practices and the committee's specific recommendation that conversion practices be banned in Western Australia. Can the Attorney General please update the house on today's announcement by the McGowan Labor government that we will ban this harmful practice?

Mr J.R. QUIGLEY replied:

I am able to confirm that the McGowan government will be introducing legislation to outlaw, and make a crime, conversion therapy—that is, therapy designed to change the sexual attraction of a particular person. It is founded on a fallacy that a gay person or a lesbian person is somehow broken and that their brokenness can be fixed by praying away the gay or by subjecting them to other strictures, counselling and pressure to get them to change their sexual attraction to another gender. We know now that the overwhelming evidence is that such practices lead to the subject feeling acute distress, depression, suicidal thoughts and feelings of guilt. We know all this based on the compelling evidence presented by the Australian Medical Association, the Royal Australasian College of Physicians and the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists, all of which unanimously oppose conversion therapy as being dangerous and harmful to the person.

The McGowan government will be introducing legislation, as I said, to outlaw these practices. I realise that we might get some pushback from the extreme right, evangelicals or others who practise these —

Several members interjected.

Mr J.R. QUIGLEY: Did anyone mention Hon Nick Goiran?

We realise that we might get some pushback, but the community is over it and embracing of all members. People who have been subjected to these practices are often young and vulnerable people who have had their lives significantly damaged. As I said, we will be outlawing this practice, but we will have a carve out and an exception for medical practitioners and psychiatrists who are counselling people because there might be some young people who are confused and still making up their mind who seek counselling from a doctor, a psychiatrist or a psychologist. We would say that their practices are all regulated and governed by the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency. If they go too far or introduce some notions into their counselling that are abhorrent, they will be dealt with under their own ethical programs.

I look forward to the day next year of rising to seek your call, Speaker, to second read in a bill that outlaws this practice in Western Australia forever.

Visitor — Kelvin Matthews

The SPEAKER: On behalf of the member for North West Central, I would like to acknowledge a guest in the gallery—Mr Kelvin Matthews, CEO of the Shire of Meekatharra. Welcome.