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Parliamentary Questions


Question Without Notice No. 769 asked in the Legislative Assembly on 13 October 2020 by Mrs L.M. Harvey

Parliament: 40 Session: 1

PUBLIC SECTOR — FTE STAFF

769. Mrs L.M. HARVEY to the Minister for Public Sector Management:

I have a supplementary question. Will the minister admit that the $300 million for the VTSS program was a complete and utter waste of taxpayer money given that the sector has grown —

Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected.

The SPEAKER: Treasurer!

Mrs L.M. HARVEY: — by seven per cent, or 8 000 FTE —

Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected

The SPEAKER: Treasurer!

Mrs L.M. HARVEY: — and that the government did not achieve a reduction of 3 000 FTE as promised?

Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected.

The SPEAKER: Minister for Police!

Mr M. McGOWAN replied:

Had we not had the VTSS scheme, that number of employees—I think we successfully achieved around 3 000 under that scheme—would still be there, so there would be an additional 3 000 people inside the public sector. I explained to the Leader of the Opposition what has occurred but she did not listen to the answer. What has happened is that a range of people have been converted to more secure employment if they have met the conditions. The conditions were ongoing funding of their position, they had to have been employed in the public sector for a minimum of two years, and they had to meet certain merit criteria, such as being a good employee and the like. They had to meet a range of conditions and thousands of people have been converted to permanency who otherwise would have had their employment renewed on an annual basis. That has given people more security of employment, something that I would have thought the Leader of the Opposition would endorse. I would have thought that of all the people in this Parliament, the Leader of the Opposition would endorse that.

I note that the Leader of the Opposition's question was about the budget. I also note that the shadow Treasurer is not here to ask a budget question of the Treasurer.

Point of Order

Mr Z.R.F. KIRKUP: Mr Speaker, I note that the Premier —

The SPEAKER: What is your point of order?

Mr Z.R.F. KIRKUP: The Premer is obviously not responding to the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition. I ask that you direct him to answer the question that was asked.

The SPEAKER: What was he not answering? I thought he was doing a pretty good job. I think you just got a bit excited there. There is no point of order.

Questions without Notice Resumed

Mr M. McGOWAN: I just want to note, and I think it is important for the historical record —

Mrs L.M. Harvey interjected.

The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition!

Several members interjected.

The SPEAKER: Members, please!

Mr M. McGOWAN: The shadow Treasurer is not here. The budget came down on Thursday.

Point of Order

Mr Z.R.F. KIRKUP: Mr Speaker, the Premier is about to make a reflection on where the member for Bateman is. In the past, you have ruled that members cannot make a reflection on when members are in or out of the chamber.

Mr M. McGowan: You can't read my mind.

Mr Z.R.F. KIRKUP: I look forward to it!

The SPEAKER: Premier, I will make a decision on that. Yes, we do not generally say if people are not in the chamber, so I am sure you will find another way to put that. That was a point of order.

Questions without Notice Resumed

Mr M. McGOWAN: Mr Speaker, I am just making the point that in the first sitting after the budget, I have never seen a situation in which the shadow Treasurer is not here to ask the Treasurer a question. I also note that today there was a budget briefing, and neither the Leader of the Opposition nor the shadow Treasurer came.