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Parliamentary Questions


Question Without Notice No. 825 asked in the Legislative Assembly on 3 November 2020 by Mr D.R. Michael

Parliament: 40 Session: 1

WESTERN POWER, HORIZON POWER AND SYNERGY — PRIVATISATION AND DEREGULATION POLICIES

825. Mr D.R. MICHAEL to the Minister for Energy:

I refer to the commitment that the McGowan Labor government made to the people of Western Australia that it would stop the Liberal Party from privatising Western Power and keep it in public hands. Can the minister outline to the house what has been the impact in the eastern states of failed privatisation and deregulation policies, and can the minister advise the house what would happen in WA if this government adopted such policies?

Mr W.J. JOHNSTON replied:

What an excellent question from an excellent member of Parliament! It is interesting that when the electricity system in Victoria was privatised and deregulated, prices went up by 200 per cent. That is what happened.

Mr D.C. Nalder: And what have they done?

Mr W.J. JOHNSTON: The member for Bateman called out, ''What have they done since?'' It does not matter. Prices doubled.

Mr D.C. Nalder interjected

The SPEAKER: Member for Bateman!

Mr W.J. JOHNSTON: Prices have not fallen in Victoria. They have not continued to rise, but that does not mean that they have fallen. This is a failed policy. The policy proposed on Sunday by the Liberal Party is privatisation by stealth. What the Liberal Party is intending to do is to give away Synergy's profits and keep its losses. That is what the Liberal Party is proposing to do.

Mr D.T. Redman interjected

The SPEAKER: Member for Warren–Blackwood, I call you to order for the first time.

Mr W.J. JOHNSTON: I tell members what: yesterday on radio, Mr Gareth Parker asked the shadow minister how much he thought electricity prices would come down. What did the member for Bateman say? He said —

Oh, you know, that's � that's a bit of a, you know, multi-million dollar question.

The member cannot even tell us what his policy would achieve! Everybody should remember that every dollar would need to be topped up by taxpayers, because this policy would increase the losses by Synergy and taxpayers would have to put in money to keep Synergy whole.

Mr D.C. Nalder interjected.

The SPEAKER: Member for Bateman, I call you to order for the first time.

Mr W.J. JOHNSTON: The member quoted Tasmania. Ninety-seven per cent of residents in Tasmania still buy their electricity from the government.

Mr D.T. Redman interjected.

The SPEAKER: Member for Warren–Blackwood, I heard you the first time and I heard you the second time, so I call you to order again.

Mr W.J. JOHNSTON: It is ridiculous to compare Western Australia with Tasmania. If we compare Western Australia with South Australia, guess what? Prices are more expensive there. That is where it has been privatised. Let us look at Tasmania. This is what the member wants us to look at. This is a map of Tasmania. Members can see that it is a distance of 330 kilometres to the north west coast, 240 kilometres to the north east coast and 150 kilometres to the west. That is the size of Tasmania. We can translate that onto a map of Western Australia. It goes out to York, does not even get to Geraldton—it goes just past Dongara—and does not even get to Manjimup. We can look at it on a bigger map. Of course it is easy to provide cheap electricity to a tiny little grid that uses hydropower. Everybody could run a system like that. If the Liberal Party is saying that it is going to abandon regional customers, of course there will be cheaper electricity. We know that this is not a policy for Western Australia; this is a policy for a small state like Tasmania. South Australia, which is comparable with Western Australia, has higher electricity prices. Tasmania does not even have competition. Ninety-seven per cent of consumers in Tasmania continue to buy electricity from the government entity. There has been no genuine competition in Tasmania. I remind people how big the south west interconnected system is. It is 830 kilometres north to south and 750 kilometres east to west. That is before we count Horizon Power.

The opposition's policy is a risk to all consumers, but mostly it is a risk to regional consumers. This is the challenge for the National Party. Where does it stand? Does it stand with the uniform tariff policy, which states that no matter where someone lives in the state, who they are, what their name is or who their friends are, they pay the same price for electricity, or does the National Party agree with the Leader of the Opposition, who wants prices to be cheaper in the metropolitan area than in country areas?