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Parliamentary Questions


Question Without Notice No. 343 asked in the Legislative Assembly on 4 August 2021 by Mr V.A. Catania

Parliament: 41 Session: 1

PUBLIC HOUSING — NUMBER

343. Mr V.A. CATANIA to the Minister for Community Services:

I refer to an answer to a question asked in the Legislative Council on 17 June highlighting that there are now 1 372 fewer public houses in Western Australia compared with when Labor came to power. Can the minister confirm that selling off public housing has had a terrible impact on vulnerable Western Australians, including 56 homeless people who sadly died on the streets of Perth this year?

Point of Order

Mr D.A. TEMPLEMAN: The preface to that question relates to responsibilities under the Minister for Housing, not the Minister for Community Services. I seek some clarification.

The SPEAKER: Under the standing orders you are required to ask questions of the relevant minister.

Mr V.A. CATANIA: It is a question in regard to the homeless.

The SPEAKER: Would you like to rephrase your question, then?

Questions without Notice Resumed

Mr V.A. CATANIA: I refer to a question asked in the Legislative Council on 17 June that relates to 1 372 fewer public houses in Western Australia compared with the number when Labor came to power. I ask the minister, as the minister with responsibility for the homeless, whether she can confirm that selling off public housing has had a terrible impact on vulnerable Western Australians, including the 56 homeless people who sadly died on the streets of Perth this year?

Ms S.F. McGURK replied:

If the member for North West Central had listened to the answer I gave previously when we talked about the local government fund that the government announced this Homelessness Week 2021, I made the point that homelessness is a problem that bedevils communities around the world, and is a difficult issue. Those people who are street present in particular, often have very complex problems that are not easily resolved. In fact, the attention that this government has put in place since coming to office in 2017 into not only extra financial resources but also the strategic work that draws on evidence is something we certainly did not see from the last government, including the previous Liberal–National government that the member for North West Central was part of. The previous Liberal–National government paid absolutely no attention at all to the problem of homelessness; in fact, members in that government wanted to sell off public housing units in their electorates and to turn the sprinklers on to people who were sheltering in streets in the city such as King Street and the like. That was the sort of approach that we saw from the previous government.

Since coming to government in 2017, we have taken the time to develop what the sector calls a world-class strategy. We are drawing on the best evidence to know how we can support those people who are homeless. We have put significant new resources, including the announcement of two Common Ground facilities, and we are now rolling out the Housing First approach in the metropolitan area, Geraldton, Bunbury, Rockingham and Mandurah. We have embarked on some real-time data collection on people on the street through the By-Name List, where we use service providers to go out and count the number of people who are street present so we can start to understand both identified and de-identified data on how we best track them. In fact, the latest figures in the Perth and Fremantle areas show a reduction in the number of people who are street present, but we are exercising cautious optimism around this because it is very early days. We have shown an unprecedented amount of focus, an evidence-based response and new money that we are putting into addressing homelessness.

If we think that building more public housing is the only solution to homelessness, we are in trouble. We need system reform. We need to draw on evidence for how to make sure we have the right sort of accommodation as well as supports, and we need to work with existing service providers and what they can do so that all of us in partnership are in the best position to support those very challenging issues.

The SPEAKER: We will take a supplementary question and that will be the last question for question time.